========================================================================= INFO-ATARI16 Digest Wed, 29 Nov 89 Volume 89 : Issue 719 Today's Topics: BigScreen, 1.2meg drive adj. COLD START Comments on STE -- (un)known facts Craft & TOS 1.4 MacDraw,PS,ED,Diction,NEODESK... Sozobon C, Uniterm, Magazine WU's ST/HP Term Question tos 1.4 problem? Word Up... Write Now!... Same Thing ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 29 Nov 89 10:39:40 GMT From: cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu!uxf.cs o.uiuc.edu!glk3593@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Subject: BigScreen, 1.2meg drive adj. Message-ID: <46300083@uxf.cso.uiuc.edu> Has anyone done the bigscreen enhancement? Does it work with Spectre? Does anyone care? Should I post my results after I hack it out? Please take the time and send me some info if you've done it? Has anyone done the 1.2meg adjustment to their drive? Same as above... -Thanks for your info-maton -Spieu! ------------------------------ Date: 29 Nov 89 10:39:15 GMT From: cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu!uxf.cs o.uiuc.edu!glk3593@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Subject: COLD START Message-ID: <46300081@uxf.cso.uiuc.edu> From ST-Praxis Winter '88/89--- This is in Omikron Basic, but it is pretty simple to understand... Three memory locations (I assume long words) have to be set to 0. 100 rem Reset resident program turn off 110 rem 120 lpoke $420,0 ' memvalid 130 lpoke $426,0 ' resvalid 140 lpoke $43a,0 ' memval2 150 rem 160 rem at the next reset, a cold start will be invoked -Spieu! Gregory Mathias Lemperle-Kerr 'Looks like the University of Illinois...' ------------------------------ Date: 29 Nov 89 05:01:35 GMT From: genbank!agate!e260-3g!laba-1aj@apple.com (John Kawakami) Subject: Comments on STE -- (un)known facts Message-ID: <1989Nov29.050135.5339@agate.berkeley.edu> In article <3421@jhunix.HCF.JHU.EDU> esp_05@jhunix.UUCP (Stdnt 05) writes: >You know, except for the color palette, I knew a computer with the new >features of the STe. I think it was called the Atari 800. Hardware >scrolling, ability to reload video shifter address every line, etc... >EMR Scrolling seems easier on the STE. On the 800, to get fine scrolling, you had to update address pointers AND delay/offsets. It sounds like the STE can do this strictly through offsets. I may be wrong though. How likely is it that we (users) can buy the new graphics chips and some patches to tap some of the new features? ------------------------------ Date: 29 Nov 89 08:40:07 GMT From: mcsun!hp4nl!fwi.uva.nl!gert@uunet.uu.net (Gert Poletiek) Subject: Craft & TOS 1.4 Message-ID: <276@fwi.uva.nl> In article <1989Nov27.143317.2881@chinet.chi.il.us> saj@chinet.chi.il.us (Stephen Jacobs) writes: >On the subject of shells: does any shell handle the UNIX element of here >documents (the << mechanism)? I'm mostly familiar with msh, which doesn't > Steve J. The CRAFT shell version 3.0 will support this. I will not give a release date here because I'm still working on it. -- Gert Poletiek Dept. of Math. and Computing Science, University of Amsterdam, Kruislaan 409, NL-1098 SJ Amsterdam, The Netherlands Internet: gert@fwi.uva.nl uucp: gert@uva.uucp bitnet: gert%fwi.uva.nl@mcvax.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: 29 Nov 89 10:40:02 GMT From: cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu!uxf.cs o.uiuc.edu!glk3593@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Subject: MacDraw,PS,ED,Diction,NEODESK... Message-ID: <46300085@uxf.cso.uiuc.edu> Wow, fourth note... Expensive bandwidth... Can anyone give me some hints on MacDraw file structure (or SuperPaint for that matter), PageStream file structure, Easy Draw File Structure? If anyone can help me out, I have two projects I'd like to get a start on... Make that three... 1.) File converter... MacDraw<->PageStream<->EasyD<->SuperP? 2.) Graphing program that would output pagestream file... 3.) Dictionary converter WP<->PageStream<->1stWord+<->ProText On a side note, I just got NeoDesk and wrote an autofolder program that selects a picture from a folder of pictures and randomly makes a new one the boot picture on boot up... I may accessorize it like that mac program if I can find out where NeoDesk stores it's pic in memory... If anyone is intersted... E-mail... -Spieu! ------------------------------ Date: 29 Nov 89 10:39:25 GMT From: cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu!uxf.cs o.uiuc.edu!glk3593@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Subject: Sozobon C, Uniterm, Magazine WU's Message-ID: <46300082@uxf.cso.uiuc.edu> Question: I read some time ago a message from the Sozobon TOP writer that there was no magazine feedback on the Sozobon compiler etc. I was just wondering, as I have tried it out, although I'm back to HiSoft Basic mostly, it is one of the better compilers out there... The optimizer (the new one posted earlier) does great optimization with registerizing of variables etc. The only fallback is that a good gemlib set up was impossible for me to implement. Is it that it is too good? There haven't been any write ups on Uniterm either to my knowledge... A couple of free ware products that could put Laser C2.0 an some others to shame if fully implemented. These guys are one of the reason I love my ST. Hacks just programming for programming's sake. It's the closest to an artform that programming can come. I think some of the magazines should do some interviews with these guys. Hell, I'll call Simon Poole when I go home to Basel for Christmas... Just some thoughts... -Spieu! G.M.L-K. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Nov 89 00:29:10 GMT From: hpl-opus!hpnmdla!hpsad!bobw@hplabs.hp.com (Bob Waltenspiel) Subject: ST/HP Term Question Message-ID: <750030@hpsad.HP.COM> I need help finding information about the HP terminal emulator on the terminator archive site. It has no documentation, source code, authorship credit. I doesn't quite work right and I'm willing to work on it. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, -Bob ----------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- | Bob Waltenspiel | e-mail: bobw@hpsad (hplabs!hpsad!..) | | ATE Software Team | Telnet: 794-3091 | | HP Signal Analysis Division | AT&T: (707) 794-3091 | | 1212 Valley House Dr. | HPDesk: Bob WALTENSPIEL/HP5300/A0 | | Rohnert Park, CA 94928-4999 | HP Mailstop: 1UR-M | ----------------------------------- ----------------------------------------- Although Pooh's head was stuffed with fluff, he was a cheerful fellow. ------------------------------ Date: 28 Nov 89 21:36:18 GMT From: cs.utexas.edu!jarvis.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu!watmath!watserv1!watcgl!electro!ign ac@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu (Ignac Kolenko) Subject: tos 1.4 problem? Message-ID: <1214@electro.UUCP> over the last couple of weeks, we've developed (for internal use only, unfortunately) a co-processor board for the atari mega st which will communicate to the electrohome JAZZ digital video effects processor. this allows the atari to talk to the processor to tell it to do things like video zooms, rotations, and special effects like checkerboard wipes, etc. anyways, now that the board is working, i've begun to write some software and i've come across a peculiar problem. we have 128K of RAM mapped in at $C00000 to $C1FFFF. (these are addresses that the developer docs say are reserved for mega expansion boards). we have tos 1.4 installed in our system. in my software, i wanted to be able to the following: wHandle = Fcreate ("image.bin", 0); if (wHandle >= 0) ? Fwrite (wHandle, 0x20000L, (char *)0xC00000L); Fclose (wHandle); ? and the converse when restoring the data back into that addresses space. now, what happened when this was run was that the computer locked up. the hard disk light stayed on solid (but no writing was being done). if the address of the buffer is changed to something in main memory, there are no problems. is this a problem with the atari DMA? is there anything special that needs to be designed into RAM on a mega expansion board to allow DMA to occur? does the DMA chip croak if you attempt to do an Fread/Fwrite outside of main memory (i've also noticed that trying to Fwrite ROM writes out complete garbage)? anyone else noticed these problems??? an answer on this soon would be appreciated. (who's the hardware guru at atari??) also, is it possible to order replacement blitters??? our's is not behaving properly anymore (bus errors when certain blitter locations are accessed, but everything works fine when the blitter is turned off in the desktop.inf file) -- =====Ignac A. Kolenko (The Ig) watmath!watcgl!electro!ignac===== co-author of QuickST, and the entire line of Quick Shareware!!!! "I don't care if I don't win, 'cause I don't care if I fail" from 'Youth Of Today' by SUBURBAN DISTORTION ------------------------------ Date: 29 Nov 89 10:39:53 GMT From: snorkelwacker!usc!samsung!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!uwm.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!ux1. cso.uiuc.edu!uxa.cso.uiuc.edu!uxf.cso.uiuc.edu!glk3593@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu Subject: Word Up... Write Now!... Same Thing Message-ID: <46300084@uxf.cso.uiuc.edu> Just tried out the dealers WordUp 2.0... Has anyone noticed the similarity between WordUp and WriteNow? Not just in the silly concatenation of words, but the interface etc. Man if WU would add footnoting, spelling and columns, I'd buy the hell out of it? Anyone know the direction of their development? -Spieu! ------------------------------ End of INFO-ATARI16 Digest V89 Issue #719 *****************************************